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in massachusetts and the same people who were the architects of the affordable care act, so to say that they were different plans is ridiculous. >> dave, you've heard republicans have been very critical here of obama care specifically the individual mandate. and mitt romney did make a comment on that. take a listen. >> you say it should only be done at the state level, but here's what he said in 2007 about the idea of the thmandate. >> i think you'll find when it's all said and done after all the states that are the laboratories of democracy get their chance to try their own plans, that those who follow the path that we pursued will find it's the best path and we'll end up with a nation that has taken a mandate approach. >> so what is your thought here? what is done on the state level, is it reasonable for think it can be done on the national level? >> i'll say something very rare. i think romney is being consistent. actually is consistent to say he wants a state plan being he wants the federal government to stay out of it. it might irritate democrats to see him again, but he is making a correct
thought. in fact, when scott brown won that seat in massachusetts, you voted so quickly to ensure that not one republican will have input in the senate. and you now you complain about republicans being part of the fix. you didn't care what we had to say during the time. >> this is not true. >> nancy pelosi made it clear. you'll have to read the bill when it's passed. because you didn't want to take the time to listen to republican ideas to get republican input and now you want to blame us. that's not how it works. >> the secret is this whole thing was bit on conservative republican ideas in the first place that you all cut and ran from because this president is the one who promoted it. >> zero votes. zero republican votes because you didn't want to work with us. you didn't care about our ideas. and now you want to blame us. it doesn't work that way. >> that's just not how it happened. >> when we passed part "d" and that's a great success. >> guys, we've got to leave it there. mo from the dnc, sean from the rnc, this was fun. let's do it again. >> thanks for having us. >> thanks. >
time. >>> jonathan gruber is an economics professor and the key architect of massachusetts romney care law and anne filipic. i know we're rolling with the punches this morning but jonathan, we have the president meeting with insurers today trying to get their buy-in on this. i'd like to get your reaction to the president and his comments that he made yesterday, basically putting his mea culpa out there about the many admissions of this fumble. >> another mistake that we made i think was underestimating the difficulties of people purchasing insurance online and shopping for a lot of options with a lot of costs and a lot of different benefits and plans and somehow expecting that this would be very smooth. >> as we look at comparing the national issue with what happened in massachusetts, the health care rollout of that state when it happened in the early 2000s, '06, where just 123 people enrolled in that first month. then we look at obama care's weak rollout numbers they beat massachusetts numbers percentagewise and that's the standard we use to measure success. jonathan, explain to all o
yesterday from mitt romney. he spent some time talking about the rollout in massachusetts. of course, obama care has been compared to that health care plan since its inception. how accurate of a picture was governor romney painting in terms of the rollout there in massachusetts? >> well, among the things i am not paying close attention to in retirement is governor romney. so i can't tell you because i don't know what he said. i will say this and this is one of the problems. in fairness to the administration -- and they clearly have much to apologize for -- the problems with the website, it was never anticipated that the federal website was going to have to do most of the country. people did not see the election of republicans in 2010 in many states who would then refuse to participate. and at the same time with the republican house refuse to provide the funding. so part of the problem with the website is that it was given a job that nobody anticipated it would have because of the unfortunate obstructionist attitude of some of the new republican governors. >> congressman barney frank, always
these shopping days on thanksgiving. >> that's right. a vestage of the old blue laws in maine, massachusetts, rhode island prohibiting a lot of stores opening on sundays and holidays. in new hampshire, there is a manager of a sears who was told by corporate to open today and she is refusing. richard? >> going to buy a tv later if it fits in the car that is. compared to yesterday it's a much better weather day to head out for dipper or shopping. it's windy as well in new york city and we are waiting to see if the macy's thanksgiving day balloons will fly. 16 balloons will be grounded if the sustained winds top 23 miles per hour or wind gusts hit 34 miles per hour. watching those wind gusts, before bill heads out to have a very good thanksgiving turkey. you got the stuff right there. >> we don't get a lot of breaking news on thanksgiving. macy's has just tweeted out what's going to happen with the blons. >> and? >> they are saying let it fly. al roker know what is he's talking about. you can give al a shout out today too. >> and bill too. >> that's all right. al roker is like the grand marshal
're anemic. as we look, though, at massachusetts, an example from '0 s '06. enrollment was slow there too, people procrastinating, signing up at the last minute. we fast forward to now and your home state of kentucky. it has emerged as a poster child for the south. we have more than 345,000 website visits, nearly 60,000 applications started and some 32,000 have enrolled. why is kentucky working so well? >> well, i think the governor made a decision very early on that we were going to do our own exchange, took advantage of the federal grant program to build the exchange, brought in very, very good people and made some very critical decisions early on that i think helped. one of them which the federal exchange didn't make was to allow people to browse the site and browse the plans without going through the application process. so to a certain extent we were lucky, but it was basically the commitment of the administration to make sure that it worked. when you're only dealing with one state and one set of providers and one set of insurance rules and one set of insurance companies, it's a lot
's regretting the campaign he ran. he ran as a faux right winger. he's the massachusetts governor who was a centrist governor. i think he's looking at christie that can run the campaign he should have win. >> that would be real serendipity. christie wanted that job and romney obviously looked at him and found him too heavyweight, actually too big for the job. >> chris christie -- >> he's losing some weight. >> that conversation with kelly o'donnell. >> i had a conversation with him once where i made a stupid crack about his weight and he called me up and said i'm working on it. you can't not like a guy like that. who doesn't have weight problems. >> a lot of americans can relate to that. we've got three big races today, new york city mayor, bill de blasio against joe lhota. terry mcauliffe is several points ahead of ken cuccinelli and chris christie has a wide lead over barbara buono. but virginia, new jersey say a lot of the ballots for the heart of the republican party. the clintons are really making virginia their territory. >> exactexactly. >> but it's going to show the difference
've gone after other republicans before, right? take mitt romney who ran as a moderate in massachusetts, not once, but twice and that's obviously the obama campaign and they believe at least on social issues they successfully painted him as somebody who was too conservative for the mainstream. it doesn't surprise me that that's going to be the tactic that they use. if you look at virginia, we're seeing this is a successful strategy right now, that the brand of the republican party particularly on social issues. all republicans are vulnerable to this because they end up having to own sort of where the entire party is sitting on social issues, but it will be difficult. if new jersey is a place for gay marriage. if this is a guy that's walking hand in hand in the boardwalk with barack obama while they're playing see ball together. it will be hard for the average voter to think, yeah, that guy is -- especially if ted cruz is running. >> and another place like south carolina, especially an average voter. >> chuck todd, thank you so much, sir. >> catch "the daily rundown" week days 9:00 a.m.
will sign up for it, just like in massachusetts. and the president's tone on this -- go ahead, i'm sorry. >> no. i was going to say whether it's rips weighing in with a plan or just weighing in in general, i just wanted to play something chris christie said on a radio show and get hogan to react to that. here's that. >> this is just an awful law that made no sense, and that's why i didn't get into a state exchange. no, i have absolutely no regrets. in fact i'm really glad that the train wreck is not mine, it's his. >> train wreck. is this christie positioning himself ahead of 2016, hogan? >> oh, he's been positioning himself for that. train wreck was a term something that harry reid used. chris christie has a few things on issues and he's trying to bolster and he's on the right side of this and i think it will help him if he decides to run in 206 sgleen but alex -- >> in my opinion it's his personality and grumpiness, something jimmy can completely understand and relate to. >> absolutely, because i'm pretty grumpy all the time usually. >> that's right. >> i want to touch on this real qui
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